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Nie  
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 More options Aug 8, 9:46 am
Newsgroups: sci.physics
From: "Nie" <n...@isp.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:46:04 -0400
Local: Fri, Aug 8 2008 9:46 am
Subject: "Causality"
"Causality"

     One of the "truths" correctly accepted by the academic community is
"Causality". It states that an effect cannot occur before its cause.
Unfortunately this truth has been used to refute the idea of tachyons
because, if they existed and could be exploited, they would permit faster
than light communication and a communication could arrive before it was
sent!

     While it is true that, in the observer's frame of reference such a
result could occur, there is no violation of causality necessarily involved!
The establishment of "now" between the Earth and the Moon currently can only
be established by the sending of an electromagnetic signal between the two
locations. In the frame of reference of the Earth-Moon system, this
transmission requires about 1.2 seconds. If we accept that Special
Relativity allows the Earth-Moon system has a velocity limited to +/-C, then
there is an uncertainty in the "now" between the two locations of +/-1.2
seconds. If the "electromagnetic now" differs from the "tachyon now" by
less than +/- 1,2 seconds, there is no causality problem with the concept of
tachyons. Causality would only be violated if the difference in "nows"
exceeded 1.2 seconds or if a round trip tachyon signal returned before it
was sent. One can hardly consider that the concept of communicating with
tachyons violates the principle of causality! All that communication with
tachyons would establish is that our reality is actually based upon the
classical Aether and sink the idea of space-time as a basis of reality. But,
as Dr. Einstein asserted, "remember gentlemen, we have not disproved the
existence of the Aether, we have only proven that we do not need it (for
calculations).

     The source material for this posting may be found in
http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm (1997); http://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm
(1987); and http://einsteinhoax.com/relcor.htm (1997). EVERYTHING WHICH WE
ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS
TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE
MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.

     All of the Newsposts made by this site may be viewed at the
http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm.

     Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on
a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy
as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts,
please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you
have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary.

     E-mail:- einsteinh...@isp.com. If you wish a reply, be sure that your
mail reception is not blocked.

     The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 8
years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE
MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by
individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without
questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be
objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn.
Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one
exception for which a correction was provided.


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Matthew Johnson  
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 More options Aug 8, 11:21 am
Newsgroups: sci.physics
From: Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...@newsguy.org>
Date: 8 Aug 2008 08:21:16 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 8 2008 11:21 am
Subject: Re: "Causality"
In article <cdd1e$489c4e21$4fa4837$10...@DIALUPUSA.NET>, Nie says...

>"Causality"

[snip]

In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE

>MATERIAL PRESENTED.

This is, of course, a lie. It has been refuted often, he just refuses to see the
refutation, like every other diehard crackpot over the ages.

[snip]


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hhc314@yahoo.com  
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 More options Aug 8, 8:37 pm
Newsgroups: sci.physics
From: "hhc...@yahoo.com" <hhc...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: "Causality"
On Aug 8, 11:21 am, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...@newsguy.org>
wrote:

That's because he is simply another "Net Kook".

Their transmitters operate, but their receivers never seem to work.
This is typical of the more serious troll/idiots.Perhaps this is a
clue why most posters like this are idiots or cannot be educated.Harry
C.

Still, these unfortunate individuals seem to be very happy in doing
their silly thing.

Harry C.


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