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Ernie Willson  
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 More options Jul 2, 5:28 pm
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.beginner
From: Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:28:19 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 2 2008 5:28 pm
Subject: Chords and Capo?
In a songbook I have  The song "Fare the Well (ten thousand miles)". At
the top is says "Key:F, Capo 4th, Play D", and then beside each chord
marking there is another chord. For example the chord G is listed as
G(D). Does this mean that with the capo in the 3rd fret position, and
fingering a G chord relative to the capo, that you are really in an
actual D chord? I can't understand what this means. Help!

EJ in NJ


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Sean  
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 More options Jul 2, 11:11 pm
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From: Sean <s...@fakemail.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:11:05 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 2 2008 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

Ernie Willson wrote:
> In a songbook I have  The song "Fare the Well (ten thousand miles)". At
> the top is says "Key:F, Capo 4th, Play D", and then beside each chord
> marking there is another chord. For example the chord G is listed as
> G(D). Does this mean that with the capo in the 3rd fret position, and
> fingering a G chord relative to the capo, that you are really in an
> actual D chord? I can't understand what this means. Help!

> EJ in NJ

1. To start with, are you putting the capo on the 4th or 3rd fret? Your
post is a bit confusing.

2. If you are playing a regular open G chord, the cowboy variety, you
are playing the 3rd fret on the 6th (fattest) string, right? So it
follows, as the night follows the day, that when you capo up and play
that chord shape, the note you are playing on the 6th string will be the
name of the chord, because it is the root of the chord. So, if you slap
your capo on the third fret (not right *on* it, but you know what I
mean), and play that G shape, then you're playing a Bb. Right? Because
that note you're playing on the 6th string is a Bb.

3. When you play a regular old cowboy D chord, you play the 4th string
open, right? And lo! it is the D string. So, when you slap your capo on
and play a D shape chord, whatever note that 4th string has become is
the name of your chord. So, if you have the capo on the 3rd fret, when
you play that D shape you are playing an F chord.
    This leads me to believe that they (or you) didn't mean to write
"Capo 4th". Capo the 3rd fret and play a song with the chord shapes you
would use playing in D on an uncapoed guitar, and lo! you are playing in F.

I have no idea what they mean with the G(D) thing. Maybe I'm dumb (yeah,
yeah, shut up you guys), but it doesn't seem to make sense.


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Ernie Willson  
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 More options Jul 3, 6:59 am
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From: Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:59:09 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

Sean,

Thank you for your well thought out reply. Boy did I mess up. The song
really says Key F#, Capo 4th fret, Play D. In addition I messed up when
I referred to the third fret (should have been fourth). Does this make
any sense now?

The song "Fare Thee Well (ten thousand miles)" is from the Joan Baez
Songbook.

Thanks again,
EJ in NJ


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Bryan  
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 More options Jul 3, 7:27 am
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From: "Bryan" <bcon...@dodo.com.au>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:27:55 +1000
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 7:27 am
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

"Ernie Willson" <ewill...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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G'day Ernie,
                    Your open D chord,when capoed at the fourth fret becomes
an F# chord as each fret you move upscale with the capo raises the pitch of
the chord one half step,ie - D,Eb,E,F,F#
                    0,1   ,2,3,4

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Lumpy  
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 More options Jul 3, 11:25 am
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From: "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:25:46 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 11:25 am
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

Bryan wrote:
> Your open D chord,when capoed at the fourth fret
> becomes an F# chord as each fret you move upscale
> with the capo raises the pitch of the chord one
> half step,ie - D,Eb,E,F,F#  0,1   ,2,3,4

I have found that all of the really good capos get
picked over by music store owners and pulled out
for their own use. The ones that remain for general
sale are crap. Because of this musicians don't sound
good and can't make any money. They should all study
engineering or medicine instead.

Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
 www.LumpyMusic.com


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Ernie Willson  
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 More options Jul 3, 1:44 pm
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From: Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:44:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?
Thanks Brian, I think I understand now.
EJ in NJ


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Ernie Willson  
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From: Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:45:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?
Lumpy,

I agree. I've done much better as an engineer than as a musician.

EJ (PE), in NJ


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Lumpy  
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From: "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:11:42 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 3 2008 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

Ernie Willson wrote:
> Lumpy,

> I agree. I've done much better as an engineer than as a musician.

In the old days, engineers told me that
the dealers grabbed up all the really
good pocket protectors and left the
crappy ones to be sold.

Lumpy

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 www.LumpyMusic.com


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Gregg L  
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 More options Jul 4, 1:45 am
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From: "Gregg L" <hims...@nowhere.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:45:18 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 1:45 am
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message

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> I have found that all of the really good capos get
> picked over by music store owners and pulled out
> for their own use. The ones that remain for general
> sale are crap. Because of this musicians don't sound
> good and can't make any money. They should all study
> engineering or medicine instead.

naw, if they've ever been musicians they can't get into any university, much
less a good one.  not even for engineering or medicine.

every one know that.
gregg


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Pt  
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 More options Jul 5, 12:55 pm
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From: Pt <pea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:55:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?
On Jul 2, 4:28 pm, Ernie Willson <ewill...@comcast.net> wrote:
 I can't understand what this means. Help!

> EJ in NJ

A capo is used to change the key of a song to better fit the singers
vocal range.
Learn to play the song without a capo.
Use the capo on different frets to adjust the key.

Pt


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MusicLover at  
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 More options Jul 25, 12:19 pm
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From: "MusicLover" <easymusictunes (at) yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:19:48 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?
Lumpy, what capo would you recomend?  I surely would not want to invest in a
less than acceptable capo.

Thanks

"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message

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Lumpy  
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From: "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:43:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: Chords and Capo?

MusicLover wrote:
> Lumpy, what capo would you recomend? <